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Tell me about the dana 60

Unread postby ScANdaLOuS » Mon Jan 19, 2004 7:59 am

I'm looking at doing a 60 rear for the buggy project. I really have no idea what to look for and could use a little help on 60 vocab.
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Unread postby Erich » Mon Jan 19, 2004 8:03 am

What kind of stuff do you need to know?
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Unread postby ScANdaLOuS » Mon Jan 19, 2004 8:05 am

well what to get one out of, what differences there are between them. I mean I don't even know what WMS is. So pretty much anything there is to know.
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Unread postby Krazed01 » Mon Jan 19, 2004 5:54 pm

WMS = Wheel Mounting Surface. the face of the drums where the rim would be touching.
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Unread postby wheelieking71 » Sat Jan 24, 2004 9:57 am

more importantly, what kind of rig is it going in? if its a trail only, and lightweight rig you really dont need a full floater. a semi floater with moser shafts (and c-clip eliminators) will be VERY hard to break.
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Unread postby TROGDOR » Sun Jan 25, 2004 12:48 am

youd probly be better of with a 14 bolt. They are usually cheaper, easier to find and stronger. just my .02
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Unread postby supersize75 » Sun Jan 25, 2004 8:47 pm

ditto on the 14 bolt, can be had for 100-300 bucks locally, more popular, and cheaper to build :D
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Unread postby crew 75 cab » Mon Jan 26, 2004 9:31 pm

I might have a dana 60 or 70 not sure witch have to check but you could get it cheep but you have to take the van tied to it and dispose of it. We have the title. It is a 79 E350 ford van.
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Unread postby TallGuy » Wed Jan 28, 2004 12:17 pm

Tell me more about this van..
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Unread postby crew 75 cab » Wed Jan 28, 2004 8:50 pm

call me 520-909-3984 or 520-584-0504
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Unread postby Ashman » Fri Feb 06, 2004 10:50 am

crew 75 cab wrote:I might have a dana 60 or 70 not sure witch have to check but you could get it cheep but you have to take the van tied to it and dispose of it. We have the title. It is a 79 E350 ford van.


Good chance thats a d70...

Thats what Ive got, as heavy as a 14bolt but better ground clearance.

I got mine like that, free parts truck kinda thing, but If I was looking to "buy" something it would be a ford 9in rear.

you could always Convert the 9in to 35 spline 1.5in shafts like a dana 70 and you could weld on dana (60,70) or 14 bolt outers to make it a full floater, and run dana 70 or 14bolt 1.5in 35 spline shafts, and it would be easy to convert to rear disk brakes once its a full floater...

I might try that some day... use my dana 70 hubs, and shafts, convert it to disks, buy a ford 9, get a 35spline carrier for it, then assemble it all..

Id never "buy" a dana 60 rear end, a semi floater for get it. Even a full floater would often need to be upgraded to run dana 70 size shafts...14 bolt semi floaters are no so great either IMO. A 14 bolt has different cut splines then the dana family, it has less spline count then a dana 70 but they are the same 1.5in size and strength.. the chart below applies to dana style spline count, specifically a dana 60 31 spline to dana70 35 spline shaft comparison.


Here is a picture of a 14bolt shaft next to a dana 60 shaft..
And the spline strength chart.

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Unread postby Jeepnut67 » Fri Feb 06, 2004 3:17 pm

This the axle you need John....
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Unread postby upside down » Fri Feb 06, 2004 4:36 pm

to be honest, and i know a lot of guys are going to scream when i say this, but a 60 in the rear over a toyota is a waste of time when it comes down to it. unless you have a 60 in the front. the toy rear will well tolerate up to 38 inch tires. just remember that big hunk of rock dragging metal makes a big difference in the long run. a pumpkin that has 4" more clearance is like putting on 8" bigger tires. example a 14 bolt with 38.5sxs has the same clearance as a yota rear on 31s. think about it.
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Unread postby upside down » Fri Feb 06, 2004 4:41 pm

not to mention....i am roughly 80" wide on my rear tire track width which is just about too wide for a lot of hard core trails. the intelligent thing in the buggy world is not BIG BIG BIG.....its all about light and agile. that is why john bondurants "tiny", the little ford 9" inch rear engine vw powered rig is kicking everybodys asses.
how many pro competition buggies run anything bigger than a 60?
which goes back to the big question of how much do you want to spend?
=more bang for your buck in a lighter smaller drive train.
bottom line.....i don't know what you want to do to/with your rig so i may be just asshatting :cool:
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Unread postby SSII » Sun Feb 08, 2004 6:58 pm

Becareful with that Ford van. I've seen Dana 61s under them. :zzz: As for a 14 bolt, I thought 5.13s are the lowest you could get. That was 6 years ago though when I thought about a 14 bolt rear.
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Unread postby ~JM~ » Tue Feb 10, 2004 9:18 pm

Here are some pics & info on Dana 70-1U that I put together.

http://www.snort4x4.com/forum/showthrea ... eadid=7216

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Unread postby Ashman » Wed Feb 11, 2004 8:55 am

SSII wrote:Becareful with that Ford van. I've seen Dana 61s under them. :zzz: As for a 14 bolt, I thought 5.13s are the lowest you could get. That was 6 years ago though when I thought about a 14 bolt rear.

Yea but those are the mid 80's E350 vans. a d61 can still be used with some modifications when spapping to deeper gears.

Dana 61 Newer Dodges like 90+ have a d61 front and a d70 rear
Dana 61 rear 86 E350 ford vans.
Dana 61s need a 0.41" ring gear spacer and need lathe (modifications to a d60 spool) to fit standard d60 gears and shafts.

A free FF d61 would still be nice If you couldent find a free d60..

5.13s are the deepest you can get for a 14bolt, and a standard cut d60 can go down to a 7.17, but a High pinnion ford front dana 60 is not offered with 7.17 gears, I think 5.88 is the limit.

I havent found dana 70 gears offered with 5.88 yet, so for my High pinnion d60 front and d70 rear I think Im stuck with 5.13 gears same if I chose a FF 14 bolt.
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Unread postby 1248bullitt » Thu Feb 19, 2004 11:56 pm

I'm not trying to be a dick or anythign but if you really want some good info go search the pirate board. Good luck bigger axles are always a good investment in my book.

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