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Florence - March 5th-7th

Unread postby Erich » Thu Feb 19, 2004 6:14 pm

OK, I've officially decided to quit stressing myself (and family) out about getting to TDS. The 4runner isn't ready for a long road trip, and I'm not going to kill myself trying to get it ready, so I've decided to take that weekend and go to the Florence area. It's been far too long since I've been there, and it's calling to me. I think I'm going to take Friday off, but whoever wants can meet up if they don't want to take the day off.

I'm planning on staying at the cabins or the windmill unless someone is bringing an RV. The cabins are a GREAT place to camp!

I'm planning on hitting a few of the trails out there such as Martinez Canyon (at least to the Mill), Coke Ovens and probably Woodpecker and/or Ajax, maybe more. We can always play it by ear, but having a guide that's run them before would really be nice. :D

A state trust permit is required for a lot of the areas in Florence Junction if you don't want to have to worry about a big fat ticket or arguing with Rangers while we wheel the trails. ;) So, who's in for some Florence fun! :bluebounce:

Edit: I also should have a loaner tent if anyone needs one
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Unread postby Drew » Thu Feb 19, 2004 6:34 pm

Is there a good spot for RVs, I don't know the area but have been wanting to get there pretty bad. I have heard that the Martinez Canyon run has some difficulty rivally C-Gap... I want to do dat! :D

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Unread postby Erich » Thu Feb 19, 2004 7:00 pm

Drew wrote:Is there a good spot for RVs, I don't know the area but have been wanting to get there pretty bad. I have heard that the Martinez Canyon run has some difficulty rivally C-Gap... I want to do dat! :D

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Yes, you can park RV's at the cottonwood canyon entrance, or even better at the entrance to Box Canyon. It's a nice wide open area.

Martinez is tricky, and honestly, it seemed MUCH tougher than the gap in the suburban. I'm still not sure I want to do the luge, but we will see. I've been denied finishing that trail twice, and I'm ready to take it on. The only bad thing is, we will need to haul a parts truck for Don. He's had some history there also :laughing:
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Unread postby Drew » Thu Feb 19, 2004 9:21 pm

Erich wrote:Yes, you can park RV's at the cottonwood canyon entrance, or even better at the entrance to Box Canyon. It's a nice wide open area.

Martinez is tricky, and honestly, it seemed MUCH tougher than the gap


That's what I'm talkin 'bout! :D I want to see what my Jeep can do, that sounds like fun. I really wanna do this.
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Unread postby 1248bullitt » Thu Feb 19, 2004 11:50 pm

If somebody has a trailer for my rig I have a camper RV that we can take. It has a few beds but I don't really remember how many....keep us posted.

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Unread postby blublaz » Fri Feb 20, 2004 7:32 pm

im in ...and i will bring my own parts truck ,thank you .....seriously lets do it ....i will probably go up on sat ,camp and leave sun ...........woo hoo i love martinez cant wait
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Unread postby JimmyJack » Sat Feb 21, 2004 5:42 pm

We be in! Gotta do some stuff on the blazer but I'm gonna get it done so we can play.
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Unread postby FredTJ » Sun Feb 22, 2004 2:09 pm

I'll probably head out their (maybe Dan will come along also).
I've run all those trails and can lead whichever we want. I won't be camping, but will plan on making it down both days.
Woodpecker (Lower and Upper), along with Ajax would make for a pretty full day, for one of those two days, and I could lead all 3 of those trails.
Martinez, the whole actual run, not just to what everyone calls the mill (it's not a mill ;)), is another run that could take most of a day.

Drew, all those that I've mentioned (Lower/Upper Woodpecker, Ajax, and all of Martinez), are tougher than Charloureau Gap. The Gap isn't difficult at all. We've gotten some pretty mildly built Jeeps (basically stock) through the Gap, with no real difficulities.

Eric, keep us updated here.

If Drew wouldn't think that I'm too proud ;), I can post up some photos here, of some of the obstalces on some of those trails.


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Unread postby Drew » Sun Feb 22, 2004 4:00 pm

Hey Fred,

I meant no harm, but I can find you posting those same pics in 4 different threads. Two of those threads were where someone else was posting up some of there original work... just made you seem, well, proud of your Currie hoop thats all I'm sayin. (I've asked your opinion on different subjects, I respect your knowledge, the hoop just kept poppin up)

I'd love to see some of the obstacles, I agree the Gap is kinda tame.
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Unread postby FredTJ » Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:20 pm

Drew wrote:Hey Fred,

I meant no harm, but I can find you posting those same pics in 4 different threads. Two of those threads were where someone else was posting up some of there original work... just made you seem, well, proud of your Currie hoop thats all I'm sayin. (I've asked your opinion on different subjects, I respect your knowledge, the hoop just kept poppin up)

I'd love to see some of the obstacles, I agree the Gap is kinda tame.


Drew, I knew you didn't mean harm ;) That's why I had the winky eye face ;)


Anyway, here are some photos (and I'll try not to include too many of me ;) )

A bit of a rock garden in Martinez:

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Here's a step in Martinez.

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Starting to rain, in Martinez:

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Coming up to another boulder step in Martinez:

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Just a few rocks in Martinez:

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Here's a view about half way up the switchbacks, on the way up to the top:

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Unread postby FredTJ » Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:23 pm

Ok, here are some of Lower Woodpecker. It's not a long trail, but it's got some big 'ns ;), rocks that is ;)

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Unread postby FredTJ » Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:29 pm

And here are a bunch from Upper Woodpecker.

Right off the bat, the very first thing, you have this little tight, off camber area that you have to get just the right line, else you'll get your top at the upper peft edge:

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A few small rocks:

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Unread postby 4alarm » Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:29 pm

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Unread postby FredTJ » Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:32 pm

Still Upper Woodpecker.

Now some bigger rocks:

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Unread postby FredTJ » Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:35 pm

Still Upper Woodpecker.

More rocks ;)


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Unread postby Erich » Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:37 pm

FredTJ wrote:Martinez, the whole actual run, not just to what everyone calls the mill (it's not a mill ;)), is another run that could take most of a day.


What is it then? I know everyone calls it a mill. :scratching:

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Unread postby FredTJ » Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:54 pm

Maybe a pumping station, but it obviously isn't a mill.
There's no milling equipment in it (huge grinders, etc), and no sign of milling tails around.

BTW, that's one of the several areas of private property (the mine about 2/3's the way up the switchback is another), that's *strictly* off-limits.
There's a really danger that Martinez is going to be closed.
The ASA is working really hard with the Tucson BLM, and the landowners, trying to flind solutions.
The "mill" and all the mines are off-limits to everyone..
It'll be sad if we loose this trail also this year, having already lost Jawbreaker (aka Lower Martinez), in the same general area, about a year ago.




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Unread postby toy4x44 » Sun Feb 22, 2004 9:16 pm

hey i would like to go and i think the callender is open. My truck (the one i have now) can't handle some of the harder trails but i believe coke ovens and such are rather easy and tame. When you guys run the tougher stuff would anyone have an open seat? Drew are you going by urself? let me know
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Unread postby Erich » Sun Feb 22, 2004 10:28 pm

toy4x44 wrote:hey i would like to go and i think the callender is open. My truck (the one i have now) can't handle some of the harder trails but i believe coke ovens and such are rather easy and tame. When you guys run the tougher stuff would anyone have an open seat? Drew are you going by urself? let me know


I'm sure someone will have a seat for you. Bring yourself out!
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Unread postby Drew » Sun Feb 22, 2004 10:38 pm

Well I wanted to do the RV and stay all weekend. Looks like the Dad-in-law will be here so...

I can only do Saturday and I would love to do Martinez canyon!

Ben, I will likely be going alone and have an open seat, you are welcome to ride with me.

Fred thanks for the pics. :D

Josh, yes it does. :p But it is beautiful.
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Unread postby TallGuy » Mon Feb 23, 2004 12:29 pm

4alarm wrote:Ohh, pretty!.....Wait, does that make me sound gay?


Your star wars collection already did that.

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Unread postby Erich » Mon Feb 23, 2004 12:36 pm

Drew wrote:Well I wanted to do the RV and stay all weekend. Looks like the Dad-in-law will be here so...

I can only do Saturday and I would love to do Martinez canyon!


Aw man! :cry: OK then, lets plan on Martinez Canyon for a Saturday run.
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Unread postby 84chevy » Mon Feb 23, 2004 10:27 pm

I might be able to go on this one if i have sliders by then. Though a few pics look a bit unfriendly to a full size rig.
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Unread postby Erich » Tue Feb 24, 2004 6:22 am

84chevy wrote:I might be able to go on this one if i have sliders by then. Though a few pics look a bit unfriendly to a full size rig.


You can always ride along on the tougher stuff and drive the easier stuff. It's just a nice area to be in!
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Unread postby TallGuy » Tue Feb 24, 2004 12:21 pm

84chevy wrote:a few pics look a bit unfriendly to a full size rig.


Nah, just adds character to the truck. :D
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