POLL: Who has built rigs ready to take on 4.5+ trails?

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When will you be setup to wheel 4.5+ rated trails?

Never, I need to keep my rig in good shape.
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Im ready
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Within the year I should be done and ready.
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Some day, I could see building a rig for 4.5+ trails.
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POLL: Who has built rigs ready to take on 4.5+ trails?

Unread postby Ashman » Fri Feb 20, 2004 10:44 am

We have good sized "extreme 4x4" forum here but, truthfully how many of us have functioning 4x4s cabaple and safe to drive on 4.5+ trails?

Im close, but I know my junk has alot of issue still.

Id have to vote, Within this year...
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Unread postby Ashman » Fri Feb 20, 2004 10:59 am

A 4.5+ rated trail would require:
A good cage
Lockers
Good steering
Good sized tires, (probibly 35+, NOT BALDIES :D)
Good gearing
And a wich or able to hold your own on a tough trail.


I think its kinda funny the front page of Wheeling arizona shows a picture of the MATRIX (a 5+ trail) and I dont think any of us are at that level yet.

It would be sweet to see a small goup of us like 5 rigs, that would be capable of stuff like the MATRIX.
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Unread postby Pazuzu » Fri Feb 20, 2004 11:11 am

ashmanjeepxj wrote:A 4.5+ rated trail would require:

Lockers

DAMNED!

Good steering

Doubled DAMNED!

Good sized tires, (probibly 35+, NOT BALDIES :D)

TRIPLE DAMNED!!!


The rest I can handle ;)
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Unread postby Erich » Fri Feb 20, 2004 12:30 pm

I think there are a couple of rigs capable of 4.5+ here, they might just not look pretty doing it :D

The trail rating is also a little tilted. I think I've seen Martinez Canyon, and the Gap rated 4-4.5 depending on the direction, and they aren't bad

Part of the problem is, as rigs have become more extreme, we have kept the same rating. 2 years ago, Matrix wouldn't have even been rated, and Woodpecker was a 'Holy Shit!" trail! :laughing:
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Unread postby upside down » Fri Feb 20, 2004 12:34 pm

:D i'm ready
and if any of yous says differnt' you can stick it! :p
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Unread postby Drew » Fri Feb 20, 2004 1:29 pm

I know that someday its gonna happen... the TJ is gonna lay over, roll or just hit something hard :doh!: . Then I'll start pulling panels and tubing. I don't believer I'd go any higher in lift, just get some bigger rubber and go.

My approach and departure with 35 or 37s would work and I have the cage and Detroits, soon to have the tranny skid to handle it.
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Unread postby hellraizer » Fri Feb 20, 2004 4:57 pm

I'll be ready for them in about a week :D
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Unread postby SSII » Fri Feb 20, 2004 5:29 pm

4.5s are fun. I've run 5s, but they seem to get expensive in a street driven bodied rig. :cry: You know things like lights, lenses, and windshields. Leave that silly 5+ stuff for the buggys. :D Thats what their built for. :thumb:
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Unread postby Jeepnut67 » Fri Feb 20, 2004 6:07 pm

ashmanjeepxj wrote:A 4.5+ rated trail would require:
A good cage

Will have this, I think we've had some people here that would be a good person to help me buld it.
ashmanjeepxj wrote:Lockers

Yup.
ashmanjeepxj wrote:Good steering

yup.
ashmanjeepxj wrote:Good sized tires, (probibly 35+, NOT BALDIES :D)

This depends on the Rig, smaller vehicles dont necessarily (sp?) need 35's for a 4.5+ rated trail.
ashmanjeepxj wrote:Good gearing

Yup
ashmanjeepxj wrote:And a winch or able to hold your own on a tough trail.

Got it, am capable of it.
ashmanjeepxj wrote:I think its kinda funny the front page of Wheeling arizona shows a picture of the MATRIX (a 5+ trail) and I dont think any of us are at that level yet.

It would be sweet to see a small goup of us like 5 rigs, that would be capable of stuff like the MATRIX.
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Unread postby Tice » Fri Feb 20, 2004 6:41 pm

With the exception of my steering mine is!! :D and after my39.5's come in I'll be even more ready!!! :D
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Unread postby ScANdaLOuS » Sat Feb 21, 2004 7:28 am

I should be ready within the year. Saving up for my hi-steer right now. Got 36" TSL's (bias-ply) sitting waiting to be put on, EFI in the works, have my springs. Gonna weld the diffs. I want to make a through the dash interior cage, and lotsa protection. Who wants to help me?
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Unread postby TROGDOR » Sat Feb 21, 2004 7:33 am

I'll help$$$$ :D :p
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Unread postby 1248bullitt » Sat Feb 21, 2004 1:01 pm

Better springs and the carb are the only things holding me back from tackling the real crazy stuff. Oh yea and the cab which will be saying good by come summer time. I have the big axles, the big tires, beadlocks, warmed over 460, good cage, detroits front and rear, good steering, 12lb winch, Hopefully i'll have a klune V by summer time too so my gearing will be even better.

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Unread postby Erich » Sat Feb 21, 2004 9:02 pm

1248bullitt wrote:12lb winch,

Wes


Ohhh! Impressive! Is that one of those Harbor Freight ones? :laughing: :p
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Unread postby 1248bullitt » Sun Feb 22, 2004 12:13 pm

12k lb alright. And no it's warn you bastard. :D

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Unread postby yota man » Sun Feb 22, 2004 2:15 pm

hey how come on the poll its all about rigs and not about driver skill???? ya you can have a great rig but no driver skill and well its over :p
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Unread postby Azrocks » Sun Feb 22, 2004 7:04 pm

I've got mine pretty much stripped down to do the four link and tube work. I'm going to go with narrowed 60's front and rear.

Anyway, I think it's possible to drive a stock rubicon through a 4.5+ rated trail (once :D ) but who would do it?

I guess the question should be is who is building rigs with the intent to actually drive these type of trails?
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Unread postby Ashman » Sun Feb 22, 2004 7:16 pm

yota man wrote:hey how come on the poll its all about rigs and not about driver skill???? ya you can have a great rig but no driver skill and well its over :p


What good is driver skill and seat time....If ya dont have a seat?

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Unread postby toy4x44 » Sun Feb 22, 2004 8:53 pm

ill help ya build, any ways once i get my rig going its gunna go fast and i want to be ready by next season to hit the hard trails. Its all on the driver though. Ive seen some guys take stock tj's on some incredible stuff. Open diffs with nothing but 32's or smaller mt's.
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Unread postby TROGDOR » Sun Feb 22, 2004 10:25 pm

toy4x44 wrote:ill help ya build, any ways once i get my rig going its gunna go fast and i want to be ready by next season to hit the hard trails. Its all on the driver though. Ive seen some guys take stock tj's on some incredible stuff. Open diffs with nothing but 32's or smaller mt's.


I guess some people idea of incredible is different than others huh? :bs: :p
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Unread postby ScANdaLOuS » Sun Feb 22, 2004 10:41 pm

toy4x44 wrote:ill help ya build, any ways once i get my rig going its gunna go fast and i want to be ready by next season to hit the hard trails. Its all on the driver though. Ive seen some guys take stock tj's on some incredible stuff. Open diffs with nothing but 32's or smaller mt's.


It's not gonna go as fast as you think. Trust me I know. :roll:
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Unread postby yota man » Mon Feb 23, 2004 7:40 am

ashmanjeepxj wrote:
yota man wrote:hey how come on the poll its all about rigs and not about driver skill???? ya you can have a great rig but no driver skill and well its over :p


What good is driver skill and seat time....If ya dont have a seat?

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ha ha ha NOT well that is ok you might have 35" tires but at least mine have tread on them :flipoff:

oh and i do have a seat. and a hole extra set front and back so :p
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Unread postby Ashman » Mon Feb 23, 2004 9:10 am

yota man wrote:
ashmanjeepxj wrote:
yota man wrote:hey how come on the poll its all about rigs and not about driver skill???? ya you can have a great rig but no driver skill and well its over :p


What good is driver skill and seat time....If ya dont have a seat?

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ha ha ha NOT well that is ok you might have 35" tires but at least mine have tread on them :flipoff:

oh and i do have a seat. and a hole extra set front and back so :p


well yea.. my Daily driver has good 35s, 5.29 gears, detroits front and rear.... but I cant wheel that :D
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Unread postby Ashman » Mon Feb 23, 2004 9:14 am

toy4x44 wrote:Its all on the driver though. Ive seen some guys take stock tj's on some incredible stuff. Open diffs with nothing but 32's or smaller mt's.


LOL.......nice.









Ive seen some guys with stock TJs not try the MATRIX:D
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Unread postby yota man » Mon Feb 23, 2004 9:17 am

ashmanjeepxj wrote:
yota man wrote:
ashmanjeepxj wrote:
yota man wrote:hey how come on the poll its all about rigs and not about driver skill???? ya you can have a great rig but no driver skill and well its over :p


What good is driver skill and seat time....If ya dont have a seat?

:flipoff:




ha ha ha NOT well that is ok you might have 35" tires but at least mine have tread on them :flipoff:

oh and i do have a seat. and a hole extra set front and back so :p


well yea.. my Daily driver has good 35s, 5.29 gears, detroits front and rear.... but I cant wheel that :D





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